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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.11.29 11:15:00 -
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LOL Interior spaces are not the problem.
Giant open maps eating up tons of memory for no reason are a problem.
Making all 32 people a separate model in the PS3 ram along with null cannon models, CRUs, Supply Depots, and whatever I am missing there are a problem.
Terribly ineffective lighting systems are a problem.
Basically terrible planning and execution are the problem and have been from the start. No amount of system resources is going to make up for that.
My only hope is that after many talks of "boarding parties" in the recent months we will see Legion unveiled at fanfest 16. Honestly if we are still sitting in silence after then I will have abandoned New Eden entirely in favor of supporting companies that actually know how to treat the people that spend money on their products.
At this point I only log into Eve or Dust just to say hello to a few friends that have not moved to the PS4. I only come here to the forums praying that some information has gotten leaked or maybe CCP has decided to wise up and use words instead of allowing rumor mongers to run rampant with despair.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.11.29 11:26:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:deezy dabest wrote:LOL Interior spaces are not the problem.
Giant open maps eating up tons of memory for no reason are a problem.
Making all 32 people a separate model in the PS3 ram along with null cannon models, CRUs, Supply Depots, and whatever I am missing there are a problem.
Terribly ineffective lighting systems are a problem.
Basically terrible planning and execution are the problem and have been from the start. No amount of system resources is going to make up for that.
My only hope is that after many talks of "boarding parties" in the recent months we will see Legion unveiled at fanfest 16. Honestly if we are still sitting in silence after then I will have abandoned New Eden entirely in favor of supporting companies that actually know how to treat the people that spend money on their products.
At this point I only log into Eve or Dust just to say hello to a few friends that have not moved to the PS4. I only come here to the forums praying that some information has gotten leaked or maybe CCP has decided to wise up and use words instead of allowing rumor mongers to run rampant with despair. Dust needs a boarding party map all interior no null turrents,vehicles,installations.Just hallways and a few bigger rooms to fight in. These could represent taking a station or big ship in eve.
Fully interior maps would be amazing.
Minimized modeling with higher attention to actual detail.
More controllable lighting scenarios. No more making interiors of sockets depend on "natural" lighting from the giant memory sucking sky boxes.
Easier spawn placements which are close and keep the match moving fast no matter what. We will just say no more AFKing in the MCC 700 meters from the nearest enemy.
Better multi tier setup ability making dedicated roles more viable.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.11.29 14:28:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Looks like all my whining and bitching at the Lore devs finally paid off. Was kinda hoping for something a bit more grandiose but I'll take what I can get These videos are usually done to promote new content in a lore driven way. Is it fair to assume that this is not the case at all as far as the Dust link goes? It's ok, won't flip a table over it but I'd just like that put out there so everyone is clear on it.
In terms of Dust it is a very fair assumption. The PS3 is too far gone for them to expect some crazy new move to be profitable.
In terms of it being hints for a new game I am torn. It was widely stated after the Legion announcement that no link would be pursued from the start in favor of focusing on making a "good game".
Fanfest 16 will mark two years since the infamous FF14 and well over a year since the iron curtain was drawn tight on development of Legion. For CCP to think they can keep people totally in the dark for that long and with people switching daily to next gen consoles would be absolutely naive.
Attempting to go past FF16 without something being said about what they are going to do in terms of a FPS would probably be the cherry on top of the mismanagement which has been the entire life of this game.
I have never seen a company so able to get followers that are so loyal along with mistreating them almost as badly as they possibly can. To be clear I am not talking about the Dust team including but not limited to Rattati and Frame but about upper levels of CCP starting from Rouge and going all the way up to Hilmar. They should all be thanking Rattati beyond belief for the fact that this game is still alive and has in some form turned profitable even while they did everything they could to kill off the game through what would seem to be an absolute lack of resources, a total shut out to a future after making the game solely based on its future, and among that silence pumping out products even from the studio that is meant to be working on Dust or the new FPS.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.11.29 15:09:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Looks like all my whining and bitching at the Lore devs finally paid off. Was kinda hoping for something a bit more grandiose but I'll take what I can get These videos are usually done to promote new content in a lore driven way. Is it fair to assume that this is not the case at all as far as the Dust link goes? It's ok, won't flip a table over it but I'd just like that put out there so everyone is clear on it. In terms of Dust it is a very fair assumption. The PS3 is too far gone for them to expect some crazy new move to be profitable. In terms of it being hints for a new game I am torn. It was widely stated after the Legion announcement that no link would be pursued from the start in favor of focusing on making a "good game". Fanfest 16 will mark two years since the infamous FF14 and well over a year since the iron curtain was drawn tight on development of Legion. For CCP to think they can keep people totally in the dark for that long and with people switching daily to next gen consoles would be absolutely naive. Attempting to go past FF16 without something being said about what they are going to do in terms of a FPS would probably be the cherry on top of the mismanagement which has been the entire life of this game. I have never seen a company so able to get followers that are so loyal along with mistreating them almost as badly as they possibly can. To be clear I am not talking about the Dust team including but not limited to Rattati and Frame but about upper levels of CCP starting from Rouge and going all the way up to Hilmar. They should all be thanking Rattati beyond belief for the fact that this game is still alive and has in some form turned profitable even while they did everything they could to kill off the game through what would seem to be an absolute lack of resources, a total shut out to a future after making the game solely based on its future, and among that silence pumping out products even from the studio that is meant to be working on Dust or the new FPS. For the record, Rouge gets a lot of undeserved flack. Hilmar as well gets a lot more flack than he deserves, especially for the FF14 debacle. Fact of the matter is that when you have a company of several hundred people, the CEO and EP aren't always going to be the shot callers. Unfortunately Rouge and Hilmar were the public faces at the time, so they received the blame.
I am not even talking about flack for the FF14 debacle. Certain employees of CCP even continued to bad mouth Dust even after FF14 during the time that CCP was making some odd attempt to pump up Legion which was supposedly at the time just an idea.
To enforce total silence after that on a future for well over a year now (counting since the Legion forums went quiet) and chopping resources is an absolute slap in the face to the everyone that has supported this game. Hilmar is the CEO and the buck stops with him. No CEO at any company with a board would even still have a job at this point if you really break down everything that has gone down at CCP in the past 6 or 7 years.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.11.29 15:13:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
For the record, Rouge gets a lot of undeserved flack. Hilmar as well gets a lot more flack than he deserves, especially for the FF14 debacle. Fact of the matter is that when you have a company of several hundred people, the CEO and EP aren't always going to be the shot callers. Unfortunately Rouge and Hilmar were the public faces at the time, so they received the blame.
I'm sorry, but that is some weak sauce justification. If the CEO isn't a shot caller, he isn't the CEO. If the EP isn't in charge of his project, he isn't an EP. Do you really expect people to drink the kool-aid along with you and blame a coder for what happened at ff14? The CEO and EP got let off easy for the blame they got.
For the record Rouge took control over the entire Shanghai studio at the time they set it on fire. He got just as burned as the rest of the player base but has not since managed certain aspects well. If I had to venture a guess i would say that his hands are very much tied by the upper levels of CCP just like Rattati and everyone else.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.11.29 15:29:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
For the record, Rouge gets a lot of undeserved flack. Hilmar as well gets a lot more flack than he deserves, especially for the FF14 debacle. Fact of the matter is that when you have a company of several hundred people, the CEO and EP aren't always going to be the shot callers. Unfortunately Rouge and Hilmar were the public faces at the time, so they received the blame.
I'm sorry, but that is some weak sauce justification. If the CEO isn't a shot caller, he isn't the CEO. If the EP isn't in charge of his project, he isn't an EP. Do you really expect people to drink the kool-aid along with you and blame a coder for what happened at ff14? The CEO and EP got let off easy for the blame they got. Lol. Sure. For the record, companies do have a hierarchy. It isn't just CEO and Employee. Even most fast food franchises have Franchise Owner > General Manager > Assistant Manager/Supervisor > Lead > Employee. You can't seriously expect that the Franchise Owner would be in charge of every nuance.
The hierarchy here is quite simple.
Board manages CCP > Hilmar runs CCP day to day operations > Rouge Runs CCP Shanghai > Rattati runs Dust (basically, not sure on the official side there).
If you are seriously trying to tell me that the head of a company does not have a meeting directly with the man running one of a few of his studios and that the man running the studio does not meet with at least one person that interacts with the community then I think we found the problem.
Your justification does not even make sense because we are not talking about the management of french fries getting burned. We are talking about an entire player base getting dumped on and the man on top of the VERY short ladder only contributing to the problems.
Just so everyone knows.
http://www.nea.com/team/harry-weller
Just joined the board of directors at CCP and will be a part of the above mentioned hierarchy in the form of reviewing Hilmar's management of day to day operations after making a substantial investment.
https://www.ccpgames.com/news/2015/ccp-games-raises-30-million-to-bolster-virtual-reality-development-efforts/
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